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So: I could tell when the UBs wanted me, but not the HBs. Explanations:
* UBs are more obvious
* self-sabotageMatthew
May 20, 2012 at 5:40 pm
mmaier2112,Shortly after I first started dating my wife, her sister made an [in retrospect] fairly obvious play at tainting me. Foot rubbing on my leg [in church!], provocative clothing, lots of physical contact. Sis was 18 then, and a confirmed slut already (though I had no clue).
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the beta male doesn’t understand IOIs and so doesn’t know when to make his move
This I can (partially) confirm. Hindsight, illumined by what I now know, discloses quite a few girls and women who have expressed interest in me in fairly direct ways, but I never believed it meant what it so clearly meant. I can think of these major causes:
* I did not expect females to make any moves, or signal any interest.
* I did not truly believe that any females would find me attractive.
*I was fully committed to chastity before marriage, which limited the scope of what I was willing to consider doing.On the other hand, I regularly suffered the experience of pitiable girls expressing interest in obvious and embarrassing ways. I quickly figured out how to detect and deflect the IOIs from the pleasant (and even sometimes very intelligent) 3s and 4s. But I had been taught that it was better to be oh so pleasant than to be oh so clever, so I continued to be nice to the fats and the uglies. While longing for and fearing the hotties.
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Yohami speak more about reading timing
mmaier2112
May 20, 2012 at 4:18 pm
I hate to say it: Some of us were (are?) REALLY thick. Years ago, I had a woman rubbing my leg with her foot all through dinner one night and I kept looking at her confused. All I could think was “Doesn’t she know what she’s DOING?”I had it happen other times, too.
And if you think about it from Game perspective, it makes perfect sense, doesn’t it?
Being obliviously in your own world creates utter indifference to the females’ presence, making you a target for them to get you to pay them some attention.
Matthew
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1a. For the win.
“[Alphas] never HAD to develop the skills to attract, pursue and seduce a particular target.”
This got me thinking. A “particular” girl? I could never pull that one. As a beta, whenever I was able to turn ONE girl, it was me, really, just responding to her seduction and molding to her frame, because she already wanted me in. As an alpha, there’s no ONE girl. The way to have ONE girl is to have ALL the girls.
“the guy with the alpha-male attitude usually doesn’t really care whether a woman is all that interested”
Because the issue is not if she is, but how much willing she is to go for it right now. Interest is granted. What you have to read are not IOIs but timing. Timing is important. Interest is cheap. If you move too quick or something, it’s a timing error, not an interest error.
“he’ll make his bold move either way and if she’s not down, he’ll move on without a blink.”
After he’s moved out without a blink, wait a couple of weeks and she´ll be knocking his door. 90% of all of my “rejections”. Probably after I banged a couple of her friends.
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